Connect with us


Thor: Love and Thunder’s Crucial Venom Connection Expounded

Many have speculated endlessly about Gorr’s “terrifying” weapon, which comes with his Marvel Legends toy figure for Thor: Love and Thunder, but comic book readers know it as the Necrosword. This weapon was not only strong enough to compete with Thor and every other god in the world, but its origins were intimately linked to Venom and the symbiotes.

Fans weren’t much wiser about Gorr’s background when he and his iconic sword first appeared in the comics. Fans are also debating whether Marvel Studios will be able to disclose the Necrosword’s intricate past in Love and Thunder, or whether the sword’s symbiote-connected maker will remain a mystery.

How Gorr Discovered the Necrosword

To comprehend the Necrosword, one must first understand how Gorr came to hold it. Love and Thunder director Taika Waititi recently said that Gorr is one of “the most sympathetic villains they’ve had,” so it wouldn’t be shocking if Gorr’s narrative in the film remained true to the comics.

So, before being known as the Killer of Gods, Gorr was born on a planet with no name, lived on the verge of famine every day, and was trained from infancy to always obey the gods. None of his requests were ever fulfilled by these gods.

Even when his parents died of fever and animals, the ground swallowed his pregnant wife, and all of his children perished of starvation, Gorr was required to revere and adore the gods. When Gorr’s final kid died, he couldn’t handle any more pain or sorrow.


God Butcher Thor Gorr Comic Panel
Thor: God of Thunder — Issue #6 (2012)
Gorr told his people that there were no gods and that they could only rely on themselves. But they refused to listen, labeling him a blasphemer and banishing him to their lonely world to die alone.

Something smashed on the planet not far from Gorr as he crawled through the scorching earth, hoping for death. Gorr investigated and discovered what looked to be two gods, one in black armor and the other in gold. While the one in black seemed to be dead, a spear through the head, the one in gold remained alive and implored Gorr for assistance, which enraged him since the gods had not helped him or his family through their hard times.


Thor Gorr Knull Necrosword Thor: God of Thunder (2012) — Issue #6 Comic Panel

The sword of the god in black surged toward Gorr, binding itself to him, as though responding to his burning wrath. Gorr used his new sword to depart his realm after slaying the begging deity, wondering whether there were other gods to destroy.

However, readers were unaware that the god in black was not dead, and they would soon discover that this deity’s name was Knull, the King in Black.

Who exactly is Knull?

There was a god who slept in the Abyss, referred to by Asgard as the Ginnungagap, between the destruction of the sixth iteration of the cosmos and the creation of the seventh. This was a completely evil dimension that gave birth to many anti-life entities, Knull being one of them.

When the Celestials started building the cosmos, they disturbed the Abyss, waking Knull in the process. Knull easily killed one of the Celestials in vengeance for intruding on the Abyss before the others threw him back into the vacuum.


King in Black: Return of the Valkyries (2021) — Issue #2 Knull All-Black Celestial Nowhere Comic Panel

Knull was able to create a weapon with practically no equivalent by using the Celestial’s body left in the Abyss as a forge: the All-Black. Knull was able to wreak immeasurable harm to the cosmos after leaving his vacuum, murdering anybody who stopped in his path and starting on a genocidal crusade against all gods and life itself.

Knull eventually encountered true resistance in his quest from an army of golden-clad gods wielding the might of the Light, his polar opposite. Knull was able to kill all but one of the gods, resulting in both gods crash-landing in front of Gorr.


Venom (2018) — Issue #4 Venom Knull Gorr Comic Panels
With a spear through his skull, the All-Black abandoned Knull and joined forces with Gorr, who, like Knull, had a burning hate for all gods. However, Gorr had unintentionally continued Knull’s mission throughout the cosmos, slaying any gods he came across.

Knull finally healed from his wounded and started to explore with his abilities, no longer relying on the All-Black blade. Symbiotes were developed as a consequence of his research, which Knull utilized to devour whole planets.

Knull’s link to his Symbiotes was lost owing to Thor’s activities half a galaxy away, prompting them all to betray and imprison him. Knull was imprisoned in a cage in the heart of what would become known as the symbiotes’ homeworld, Klyntar, for millennia until he was ultimately let free.

Meanwhile, Gorr kept using Knull’s weapon to do what it did best: murder gods.

The All-Black Effect

While Hela’s weapon was never identified in Thor: Ragnarok, the Collector referred to it as “a” Necrosword in the What If…? episode “What If… T’Challa Became a Star-Lord?” This suggested that there were at least two or that the blades generated were just duplicates of the original Necrosword.

However, in comparison to the comics, Hela’s usage of it was somewhat restricted. Her Necrosword’s sole skills appeared to be fast producing several copies of itself and altering form, like when Hela used it to make an ax for Scurge to wield as her executioner.


Otherwise, it seems little in relation to Gorr’s strength, particularly given how little fans have seen of him in the MCU.

Looking at the marketing and merchandising for the Ragnarok sequel, it’s clear that Gorr’s weapon will function much more like its comic version than Hela’s weapon. Gorr not only has the ability to call Black Berserkers, as opposed to Hela, who was obliged to revive dead Asgardians, but it can also sprout protective black tendrils.


The second trailer for Love and Thunder purported to depict Gorr creating a settlement for himself that is coated in black, slimy, symbiotic tentacles.


In the comics, the Necrosword quickly increased its host’s strength, durability, speed, and reflexes to god-like levels. So, although Hela was strong, Gorr might be assumed to be more so than the Asgardian goddess of death.


Venom (2018) — Issue #4 All-Black Necrosword Knull Comic Panel
The All-Black is considered the original symbiote, since Knull would eventually develop symbiotes such as Venom. It behaved similarly to its contemporary equivalents, enhancing its host, changing shape into various weapons or appendages, and even constructing a suit around its host.

In the comics, Gorr used all of these skills against Odin’s son as he sought to destroy him and other gods.


Comic Panel Gorr Thor God of Thunder
Issue #5 of Thor: God of Thunder (2012)
But, as previously stated, the most frightening capability the Necrosword held in the hands of Gorr was his capacity to gather an entire army. The weapon was capable of spawning semi-sentient symbiotes that obeyed the will of whomever used it, similar to how Venom generated Carnage from its essence.

So the real issue today is whether Marvel Studios will employ any of this narrative and mythology.

Connections with Lawyers

The short answer is no.

According to all sources, Knull is largely related to Venom, who is directly linked to Spider-Man, implying that Knull’s film rights are likewise tied to Sony Pictures. As a result, Marvel Studios cannot lawfully make any direct allusions to that character without first obtaining permission. Any hopes of Thor or anybody else mentioning the deity of symbiotes should be put to rest right now.

Long answer: Yes, but with qualifications.

Because every key part of Gorr and the Necrosword was written and illustrated before any relationship to either was discovered, Marvel Studios could do anything except reference Knull or symbiotes. The MCU might go so far as to hint at Knull’s existence while without identifying or displaying him.


Remember the Celestial Knull decapitated with the All-Black? The severed head became Nowhere, which appeared prominently in Guardians of the Galaxy and Avengers: Infinity War.

It’s possible that Love and Thunder just bestowed this horrific ability to Gorr, but it might also be hinted that the Celestial was slain with the Necrosword by someone else. In reality, fans might be presented Gorr’s narrative from the comics in its entirety with no alterations made.


After all, Knull is never identified, and his more often used character design in subsequent appearances is also absent. Thus, Marvel Studios could hypothetically insert Knull into a flashback and just ignore him.

In contrast, the fundamental appearance of symbiotes is so generic that Marvel Studios could change the design of the Black Berserkers to seem more like them, but not so much that Sony Pictures’ attorneys would show up. All Marvel Studios would have to do is give them white teeth, and presto! You have creatures who resemble symbiotes, such as Venom, but are legally different from them.


It may even be a means for Marvel Studios to reach out to Sony Pictures in the future. They’ll have to work out a new deal before the next Spider-Man trilogy in the MCU, although it might include additional characters like Knull. But, if that fails, it’s not like these Knull secrets will affect the MCU in the long run and can be dismissed as entertaining Easter eggs for fans.

Audiences will have to wait and see how much Marvel Studios will rely on these Knull links when Thor: Love and Thunder reaches cinemas on July 8.

Click to comment

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published.


Marvel versus DC. Who has the hotter female actors?

DC and Marvel are the two most well-known superhero film companies. There are several points on which fans of these two studios can’t agree, including which has the superior superheroes, which has the superior superhero team-up, which has the superior villains, and which makes the superior movies.

Yes, it seems like another argument is on the horizon. Marvel and DC aren’t shy about featuring stunning female leads since they know it draws in the crowds. In exchange for portraying some of our favorite superheroines, these ladies earn millions of dollars.

Discover who has exceeded the other in this respect.

Marvel VS DC


Scarlett Johansson as the Black Widow

Elizabeth Olsen, aka the Scarlet Witch

Gwyneth Paltrow – Pepper Potts

Gwyneth Paltrow

Captain Marvel (Brie Larson)

Valkyrie – Tessa Thompson

Dani Guererro – Okoye


Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman

Lois Lane, played by Amy Adams

Amy Adams

Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn

Amber Heard/Mara

Black Canary, played by Jurnee Smollett-Bell

Who do you believe has the sexiest actresses? Who is your top pick and why? Leave a comment, thanks!

Continue Reading


Each and Every Show That Inspired the Disney+ Series WandaVision

WandaVision’s frequent allusions to classic television shows are a major part of its humor.

In January of 2021, WandaVision launched Phase 4 of the MCU, officially ushering in a new age of Disney+ shows. Indeed, it was the first time the MCU was seen on television, as it chronicled Wanda Maximoff’s (Elizabeth Olsen) reaction to the aftermath of Avengers: Endgame. In the end, WandaVision was a huge critical triumph, garnering a whopping 23 nods at that year’s Primetime Emmys.

WandaVision, as the first television series in the MCU, appropriately paid tribute to the medium of television by drawing inspiration from a wide range of programs throughout its history. WandaVision acknowledged a wide range of television classics by the end of the series, from The Dick Van Dyke Show to Modern Family. All the shows that served as models for WandaVision are listed here.

The Dick Van Dyke Show

The Dick Van Dyke Show, which follows the title man in his antics both at work and at home, is one of the earliest shows mentioned on WandaVision, appearing in the very first episodes. One of WandaVision’s primary inspirations comes from this episode. Matt Shakman, the show’s director, told Den of Geek that he and Van Dyke had lunch together to discuss the show’s production.

I Love Lucy

Featuring Lucille Ball as a New York housewife who dreams of becoming a star, I Love Lucy was a smash hit on television. Clearly, this program, along with The Dick Van Dyke Show, was an influence on the first two episodes of WandaVision. The most blatant example is the fact that couples could not be depicted in bed together during the airing of I Love Lucy. Two separate single beds were displayed instead of a double bed.

Featuring Lucille Ball as a New York housewife who dreams of becoming a star, I Love Lucy was a smash hit on television. Clearly, this program, along with The Dick Van Dyke Show, was an influence on the first two episodes of WandaVision. Couples could not be shown in bed together on television during the time that I Love Lucy was airing. Instead of a double bed, two single beds were displayed.

The Twilight Zone

The Twilight Zone

The Twilight Zone, the only non-comedic source of inspiration for WandaVision, is another source of the show’s unique style. The structure of the show has a narrator guiding the audience through a series of spooky stories set in a realm named “The Twilight Zone.” Jordan Peele just recreated the series, but he stuck with the same basic idea. Jac Schaeffer, the program’s creator, discussed WandaVision’s impact on the series and its storytelling, highlighting the impact the show had on the development of Wanda’s magic and the resolution of the Hex’s mysteries.


Bewitched, originally shown on ABC in the 1980s, has been remade numerous times throughout the history of film and television, most recently as a box office smash starring Nicole Kidman and Will Ferrell. Starring in the show is Elizabeth Montgomery as a witch attempting to lead the life of a typical housewife. WandaVision, in which Scarlet Witch and Vision disguise themselves as normal suburbanites, finds an apt inspiration in these stories.

The Brady Bunch

The Brady Bunch was a popular show from the 1970s about a nuclear family that ended up blending and raising six kids together. The third episode of WandaVision, as part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, plainly draws inspiration from The Brady Brunch, as the title card makes explicit reference to the show’s title show.

Good Times

A family living in a Chicago public housing complex experienced nothing but good fortune. The actress playing Monica Rambeau on WandaVision, Teyonah Parris, confirmed this was a running gag, and that the show’s effect can be seen even in later episodes. Good Times originated in the 1970s as a spin-off of Maude, which was itself a spin-off of All in the Family.

Full House

In Full House, Bob Saget played a widower father who enlists the support of his brother and closest friend, both of whom were also single parents. The episode in which WandaVision transitioned into the 1980s TV era was inspired by this show. Having grown so much, Billy and Tommy had altered the household dynamic. It’s worth noting that the Olsen sisters, Mary-Kate and Ashley, were featured prominently in the ABC show Full House, which served as inspiration for the show’s design.

Malcolm in the Middle

The popular sitcom Malcolm in the Middle from the 2000s focused on the eponymous character, a bright kid from a working-class family who struggled to fit in. In the sixth episode of WandaVision, there were multiple references to Malcolm in the form of dialogue and the opening titles were a direct homage to his. Furthermore, exactly as Malcolm did in his show, Tommy did in WandaVision, breaking the fourth wall.

The Office

WandaVision’s seventh episode included numerous allusions to contemporary sitcoms like The Office, especially in its mockumentary-style format, which featured interviews and glances directly into the camera. While Vision and Darcy are operating the circus truck, Vision occasionally turns his head to stare directly into the lens. When Agnes recognizes the camera, she once again reveals herself to be Agatha Harkness. It’s only fitting that a reference be made to The Office, which has had such an enormous impact on contemporary television.

Modern Family

When it comes to television, Modern Family is up there with the all-time greats. The show centers on the Pritchett family patriarch, Jay, and how his three children and their families interact. In the sixth episode of WandaVision, Wanda addresses the camera directly in a mockumentary style reminiscent of Modern Family. Wanda’s home is also quite similar to the Dunphys’ in terms of color scheme, design, and general vibe.

Continue Reading


Who is the Wonder Man of Marvel Comics?
We had been expecting you, Simon Williams.

The following contains spoilers for some of Wonder Man’s comic book history, but will give you an overview of his background.

Marvel Comics readers have been wondering when Simon Williams, aka Wonder Man, would enter the MCU ever since the introduction of Vision in Avengers: Age of Ultron. With the confirmation that Destin Daniel Cretton, the man behind Shang-Chi, will be directing a Wonder Man series for Disney+, some of the answers to that question began to emerge. And in even more thrilling developments, it appears that Yahya Abdul-Mateen II will play Simon Williams in the film. If you seen Watchmen on HBO, in which Abdul-Mateen II portrayed Doctor Manhattan, you’ll find this casting even more intriguing. As the villain Black Manta in the Aquaman film series, he is no stranger to the superhero genre. But that’s not why we’re here; we want to speak about Simon Williams and his role in the future of the MCU, and in particular the fates of two of the most beloved star-crossed couples in the MCU canon.

Who is this mysterious Wonder Man, anyway?


Wonder Man made his debut to readers on the cover of Avengers #9 in 1964. There was a banner that read, “Marvel Comics proudly introduces… Wonder Man, the newest, most dynamic surprise character from the world-famous House of Ideas,” and the cover art featured the looming heads of Thor, Captain America, Iron Man, Wasp, and Giant-Man looking down on their new superpowered foe. Even more so considering Wonder Man wouldn’t make it to the issue’s conclusion, it was a bold claim. Simon Williams was a normal man before he was kidnapped and subjected to “the most potent ionic rays” by Baron Zemo at his hideout in the Amazon Jungle, transforming him into a superhero with superhuman strength and invulnerability. What could possibly motivate such crazy research? The goal was to get Simon (now known as Wonder Man) into the Avengers organization and give him superpowers. In the end, Wonder Man decides to help the Avengers defeat Zemo, after initially agreeing with the plan. He pays the ultimate price for his brave decision. Zemo had poisoned him in secret and, after being deceived, had refused to give Simon the antidote. So long, Wonder Man.

The question is, how did Wonder Man make his way back? And if that was his last appearance, why is he getting a spinoff? In an event that would have lasting effects on Wonder Man and the Avengers, he was soon to play a pivotal role in the development of a legendary Marvel hero.

How Wonder Man are related with Scarlet Witch and Vision?

For four years and 51 issues, fans had to wait before seeing Simon Williams again in the pages of The Avengers. However, the style did not adhere to the norm for comic books. Unfortunately, he was not shown to be still alive or brought back from the dead. This guy wasn’t even a clone. Instead, he is shown to be instrumental in the creation of the synthezoid known as the Vision in the acclaimed story “Even an Android can Cry” by Roy Thomas, John Buscema, George Klein, and Sam Rosen. Something shocking is uncovered as the crew led by Iron Man investigates Vision’s origins and identity. Ultron, the villain, absconded with a valuable item, a “memory cassette” of Wonder Man’s brain. He put it to use in developing the Vision. Yes, in the comics the Vision is an android with a digital replica of Simon Williams’ brain, as opposed to the MCU, where he is formed via the combined efforts of Thor, Tony Stark, and Bruce Banner. The odd narrative may have ended there, but Wonder Man had more in store.

By revealing in Avengers #102 that Simon Williams had not been killed but had instead been in a coma since Avengers #9, Marvel Comics planted the seed for his eventual resurrection in 1972. Unfortunately for Simon, it wasn’t the Avengers but Kang, as part of his villain team Legion of the Unliving, that resurrected him in Avengers #131. Wonder Man’s relationship with Vision only grew in importance once he through a few more rebirths and officially joined the Avengers in 1977.

After living together for a while, the duo finally accepted their unorthodox connection and began to view each other as quirky but supportive siblings. Unfortunately, that was short-lived when a corrupt business destroyed Vision’s memory, rendering him emotionless. Simon’s understanding refusal to enable his loving wife Wanda to restore him via brain imprint donation to Vision was understandable. Because he had grown to love Wanda, even if she didn’t realize it for years. The affair was intense, but it ended when Wanda realized she still loved her one true love, Vision, too much to let him go.

What are Wonder Man’s powers?

What a fascinating query! The correct answer has evolved with the times, just like our favorite comic book heroes. We already know that his innate abilities granted him superhuman strength and indestructibility. His initial ionic experiments with Zemo gave him the foundation for his subsequent enhanced talents. Wonder Man appeared to be made entirely of pure energy after reviving from one of his numerous deaths, but the truth is more complicated.

Wonder Man has falsely claimed to be made of Ionic Energy on multiple occasions, however a more accurate description would be that it is embedded throughout his own flesh and bones. As a result of his extraordinary physiology, he can heal himself from wounds, fashion solid objects out of energy, and control magnetic fields. His peculiar abilities can be traced back to his past. Aside from that, Wonder Man possesses a host of classic superhero abilities, including flight, invulnerability, bulletproof skin, the ability to leap tall buildings in a single bound, extreme agility, and super reflexes. He also possesses latent powers, such as teleportation and shapeshifting, though he rarely employs them.

Isn’t it true that Wonder Man used to act?

Yep. Simon’s aspirations to become an actor are almost as well-known as his association with Vision. Wonder Man, who in the 1970s was a resident of the Avengers Mansion, left to strike out on his own. Simon left the Avengers #211 after Captain America attempted to downsize the squad to focus on his personal life in Avengers #211. He is now working with good old Hercules in his acting profession. He then tried his hand at acting before transitioning into the world of stunts in Hollywood, where he proved to be nearly unstoppable. Both West Coast Avengers Vol. 1 and his solo series Wonder Man detail that time period in his life. It’s easy to imagine that this will serve as a springboard for his Disney+ series.

What role Wonder Man will play in Marvel?

Simon Williams seems like a logical progression for the MCU after the events of WandaVision and the introduction of the memory-erased White Vision. The question that remains, though, is how the MCU will redefine the antihero in his pilot episode and throughout the franchise. The several possibilities we’ve discussed here show that this is so. Following a much-loved Marvel Cinematic Universe convention, this author speculates that Simon Williams was either an employee or rival of Tony Stark. The latter seems more realistic, given that his past in the ’80s comics was expanded to involve him competing with Stark Industries for cash.

It’s possible that the MCU will introduce the idea that Jarvis and eventually Vision were created using Williams’ coding skills or a physical brain imprint, giving him the crucial connection that the characters need. This would be a great opportunity for the MCU to further cement the brotherly bond between the two characters and bring him full circle back to Tony Stark. The Wonder Man TV show might also take place in the past to introduce audiences to the character and his background before he becomes part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. That may be a fun way to introduce audiences to Wonder Man before he officially enters the current MCU, while also incorporating some of the hilarious hijinks from his time in Hollywood. It’s also plausible that this path may leave Williams in a coma, where the MCU’s latest villain can revive him.

It seems likely that Kang will play a role in Simon’s primary introduction to the MCU, given the comics and the time of the Wonder Man series. Including the Legion of the Unliving in the MCU may be a fascinating development. It’s also possible that White Vision is discovered by scientist Kang, who then links the new synthezoid to Simon. However, we believe that Simon will become well-established in the series before being presented to the main MCU, where he will become connected with White Vision and the Avengers after becoming entangled with a revived Scarlet Witch. During the Kang Dynasty comic that inspired the new film’s title, Wanda and Wonder Man actually break up in the comics.

We won’t know until Disney+ launches the much-anticipated MCU series, though.

Continue Reading

Latest marvel Articles

Marvel3 days ago

Marvel versus DC. Who has the hotter female actors?

DC and Marvel are the two most well-known superhero film companies. There are several points on which fans of these...

Marvel3 days ago

Each and Every Show That Inspired the Disney+ Series WandaVision

WandaVision’s frequent allusions to classic television shows are a major part of its humor. In January of 2021, WandaVision launched...

Marvel3 days ago

Who is the Wonder Man of Marvel Comics?
We had been expecting you, Simon Williams.

The following contains spoilers for some of Wonder Man’s comic book history, but will give you an overview of his...

Marvel3 days ago

10 Facts About Gwen Stacy That Only Marvel Comics Fans Know

Fans of Marvel Comics are aware that Gwen Stacy is important in Spider-existence. Man’s The secret to her MCU future...

Marvel4 days ago

Before taking over DC, James Gunn rejects any rivalry between Marvel and DC, saying that he and Kevin Feige share a common goal.

Beginning on November 1, Peter Safran and James Gunn will serve as the co-chairman and co-CEO of DC Studios, but...

Marvel4 days ago

The official Black Panther podcast, Wakanda Forever, debuts on November 3.

A Ta-Nehisi Coates-hosted mix of audio narrative storytelling and interviews with stars like Ryan Coogler, Kevin Feige, Angela Bassett, and...

Marvel4 days ago

At least three new Marvel video games are in development at EA.

#marvel video games, #marvel games More video games will feature Spider-Man, Black Panther, and other notable Marvel characters. A new...

Marvel1 month ago

The top ten MCU fourth wall breaks

Firs of all, for thoes who don’t know who the fourth wall break is – it’s when a character is...

Marvel1 month ago

The Best MCU Trailers So Far

These days MCU trailers and teaser trailers stepped in to the new era. MCU have never had such a.good trailers...

Marvel1 month ago

Elizabeth Olsen reveals why she feels embarrassing working with MCU

Elizabeth Olsen has acknowledged that she finds the process of making Marvel movies “embarrassing.” In addition to the TV series...